Episode 35
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Grant:Welcome back to Soul My Line at Fireside Film Podcast. I'm Grant.
Drew:And I'm Drew.
Grant:And today, we are talking about A Complete Unknown. Starring Timothy Chalamet, directed Directed by James Mangold. Oh, you beat me to it. Before we get into this episode, first off, I'd like to say thank you. Yes.
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Grant:Housekeeping details there. A complete unknown. Complete unknown. You're dressed so much like Bob Dylan right now.
Drew:I tried. I really tried.
Grant:If you're listening on podcasts, thank you. Maybe, take a look at our YouTube real quick. Yeah. I didn't know that you had a a Bob Dylan outfit slash I I guess I didn't ever think about that you had his haircut.
Drew:I didn't think about it either until I was, like, ten minutes left of the movie, I was like, you know what? I have a leather jacket. I have jeans, and I have sunglasses. Yeah. And I have the hair.
Grant:You're decked out.
Drew:I'm Bob Dylan.
Grant:Do you have a harmonica? Or
Drew:Frick. I literally do.
Grant:You have a harmonica? Yes.
Drew:I should have brought it.
Grant:It probably would have, like, destroyed our audio. Yeah. It would have been crazy. Played on the podcast. That's how
Drew:we should started the podcast.
Grant:Oh, that would have been crazy. Oh, that
Drew:would have been sick. Viewers, we've let you down there.
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Drew:That's on us.
Grant:So I'm guessing you liked the movie based on your outfit or you just vibing with Bob Dylan?
Drew:I'm just kinda vibing right now. Okay. I did like it.
Grant:Okay. Yeah. I wanna hear your thoughts. This is a biopic biopic. I don't know how you pronounce it.
Grant:I don't either. I've always said biopic.
Drew:Tomato tomahto type of situation?
Grant:Yeah. But it's starring Tiffany Chalamet, like
Drew:I Tim Chalamet.
Grant:Bunch of bunch of great actors. Ed Norton's in this movie.
Drew:This is the first Ed Norton role where he plays a nice guy that I've seen. Yeah. Not kinda like a slimy individual who just Yeah. Is kinda gross. Like, Fight Club, he's not really slimy, but like kinda becomes
Grant:Yeah. Kinda. It's just like a dark great dude
Drew:in that. It's just a dark movie. And then Birdman, he's a very slimy dude.
Grant:Even Glass Onion.
Drew:Yeah. Yeah. That's true.
Grant:Shout out to maybe a later review here.
Drew:Yeah. That's a little teaser. I wonder what could be coming.
Grant:I wonder. But, yeah. No. I I was watching this video. I was like, he's not a terrible person.
Drew:Like, he's genuinely nice.
Grant:There was a moment halfway through this movie, was like, are they gonna turn him into the villain of the movie? Yeah. And they never really that's kind of a spoiler. I know. But not really.
Grant:Yeah. Like, anyway. Yeah. He was great. I guess he maybe had some prosthetics going too because I don't know, he looked a little different, but maybe they maybe he's just as old now.
Drew:I don't Yeah. I don't know.
Grant:But yeah, anyway, tell me your thoughts.
Drew:I thought I have I have lots of positives and lots of negatives.
Grant:Okay.
Drew:I thought the pacing and con the structuring of the story was not great. And I think there's a couple reasons that could be, a, this is based on a book.
Grant:Yes.
Drew:And we've kinda talked about this before with, like we talked about it on the Catch Me If You Can episode and some of the other, like, true life stories that we And there is an element of it's I think it's harder to adapt as it is to write
Grant:Yes.
Drew:Because it happened in real life.
Grant:Yeah. That's right.
Drew:So if you're trying to be true to history Mhmm. There are elements that you need to keep in Yeah. And not shape it around, like, the three act structure and, like, as much as you maybe would want to as a writer.
Grant:Yeah. No. That that's completely fair.
Drew:So I think some of the elements of the story, I was just kinda like, why are we here? Specifically, is it Ellie Fanning?
Grant:Yeah. Elle Fanning. Is it Elle or Elle? Elle?
Drew:Elle? We're looking at
Grant:Elle Fanning. It is her though. I just don't know how to
Drew:pronounce it. Her character kinda felt pointless to me.
Grant:Yeah.
Drew:And like, I mean, like, I think there was a little bit of like, will they, won't they with the the two love interests in the movie, but I'm like
Grant:There's no, like, great resolution with either of them.
Drew:Exactly. And the reason I'm invested in this movie is to see Bob Dylan, like, revolutionize the music industry. Mhmm. That's why I'm watching. Yeah.
Drew:And that's kinda why I'm hooked. And, like, this might just be a me thing, but I didn't really care about the love interest.
Grant:No. I I honestly like, I felt bad for her the whole movie. Her name's Sylvie in the movie. Yeah. I feel bad for the whole movie.
Grant:She like Yeah. Well, oh, that's a spoiler. That is a spoiler. I'll bleep that out. But yeah, I kinda feel bad for the whole movie, and I don't know.
Grant:It's But, yeah, the resolution there wasn't fully present, and we'll dive into spoilers later, but I do agree. I think for me, a standout is Timothy Chalamet as Bob Dylan, which I know is like
Drew:That is the conversation.
Grant:Everybody talks about that's kind of the draw to this movie. Right. At least for me, when I was looking at this movie on our list, was like, yeah, we're gonna talk about that performance. I thought he was great. And I've seen a lot of Timothee Chalamet movies, and usually I see one of his movies, I'm like, okay, it's Timothee Chalamet.
Grant:He really did a great job. Like, I kinda felt like halfway through the movie, I'm like, I'm really watching Bob Dylan. Like, I'm invested in his character and how he acts. Like, I'm not thinking of him as Timothy Chalamet playing Bob Dylan. I'm just thinking of him as, like, the character Bob Dylan.
Drew:I totally agree.
Grant:I thought he did a really great job. His I know, like, he put so much work into guitar and singing and
Drew:And his just vocals as a whole. Like, the his voice
Grant:changed completely. A lot like Bob Dylan too. And I don't know much about Bob Dylan and his mannerisms and stuff, but, I mean, again, it felt very seamless to me. Like, I really felt like I was watching a Bob Dylan movie, not just someone playing Bob Dylan. Right.
Grant:You know?
Drew:I watched a bunch of interviews of Bob Dylan before I watched this movie.
Grant:Yeah. Because he's still alive, by way. He's still alive. Anybody who watches movie, like, they might think, oh, Bob Dylan's probably dead. No.
Grant:I mean, he's alive.
Drew:He's still freaking. Yeah. Anyway. He's dropped 55 albums, by the way. Crazy.
Drew:Which is a wild number.
Grant:Yeah. That's so much.
Drew:It's insane.
Grant:So much.
Drew:But, yeah, I watched interviews before, and he like, Timothee Chalamet, I'm gonna go out on a limb.
Grant:Okay? Okay.
Drew:I think Timothee Chalamet of our generation of actors
Grant:who are
Drew:up and coming well, Timothee Chalamet is not up and coming anymore.
Grant:But No. I know what you mean.
Drew:He has the most range
Grant:period. Yeah. Yeah. I'm trying to think
Drew:Honestly, he's kind of already up there with, like He's definitely Some some of the higher tier actors.
Grant:He is a movie star in the sense of people will go see a Timothy Schalemay movie. Like, Marty Supreme will probably get a decent amount of viewership just because his name is attached to the project.
Drew:For sure.
Grant:And his also journey to fame is not like, oh, he was one of the Euphoria, like, kids or like Yeah. He he was on Stranger Things. Like, no. He did a bunch of
Drew:Artsy movies.
Grant:Artsy movies. Yeah. And then just got famous. Like, he he did some mainstream stuff too, obviously, he's done Dune and stuff. But his journey to being an actor is so different than I feel like you look at, like no offense.
Grant:They're great actors, like Zendaya, for example.
Drew:Like Yeah.
Grant:I mean, Disney kid, Euphoria, like, kind of mainstream. I guess Euphoria is an RC. Anyway, I'm nitpicking. But I think his journey to being, like, the actor of our generation right now is pretty cool too.
Drew:He feels like he's in it for the art. I don't wanna say more than other actors, because I I don't know. I I don't know any actors. But Timothee Chalamet feels like he's in it for the craft. Yeah.
Grant:I I feel like he's selective in a good way with, like 100%.
Drew:I agree.
Grant:Chooses to work on. Because like he can be selective now, but he's not done really anything that I've been like, why is he doing this Marvel movie or whatever? Like, I mean, maybe he'll hop into that at some point, but I mean, Dune, he's directing, or he's working with Denis Villeneuve. Right. Mean, a pretty established director, you know, pretty artsy in a lot of ways.
Grant:So, I don't know. Pretty cool.
Drew:But I totally agree.
Grant:Yeah. Tell me more of your likes, some of your dislikes. We talked about story structure a little bit. Anything I know you're not a big vibe guy, but anything vibe wise that you like?
Drew:I am a big vibe. Guys, I I like vibes in movies.
Grant:You you talk primarily about story every single time.
Drew:I do. That's true. I still don't know where I land on this conversation, but we'll we'll revisit it. But then it's like, I love Tenet, so it doesn't matter.
Grant:We'll do a bonus episode maybe, vibes versus story or We
Drew:We were I I wanna have that conversation more. But vibes I mean, the music, I liked a lot. Yeah. I Okay. Someone asked me Someone commented on
Grant:Yeah. Let's read this comment.
Drew:And was like, were you into Bob Dylan before or after?
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Grant:Did y'all listen to Bob Dylan prior to A Complete Unknown or watching this movie? And did we want to afterwards?
Drew:So, no. I I was literally couldn't name name you a single Bob Dylan song. Yeah. As I was building this fire, all I was playing was Bob Dylan. Yeah.
Drew:That's So That and
Grant:I would never pin you to listen to any of Bob Dylan's
Drew:Yeah.
Grant:That's not your vibe of music. It is not. But for me, I was a little more familiar, like I knew, like, I mean I knew, you know, general stuff about Bob Dylan. I'd listen to some of his folks, some of his, you know, revolutionary stuff, but I don't listen to him on the regular. Like, I know like a Rolling Stone, but so does kinda everybody.
Grant:And it's one of the most famous songs on one of the most famous albums ever made. So, but I am super fresh off this movie. It I really had a great appreciation for his music and his I think a lot of it was the storytelling in the songs that I was really appreciative of.
Drew:Right. 100%.
Grant:Because there's a lot of commentary about is Bob Dylan good at singing or whatever, cause his voice is very specific, but I was really drawn to the storytelling and what he was writing the songs about and Yeah. I agree. But yeah. I don't really have a ton else on this movie before we get into spoilers. I had a good time watching this movie.
Grant:I wanna talk a little bit about the biopic aspect of it, but I think we should dive into spoilers before we get too deep into that.
Drew:Yeah. I agree.
Grant:So, yeah. Hey, if you haven't seen A Complete Unknown, go watch it. Go check it out. It's great. I think we both had a good time watching it.
Drew:I would say it's definitely worth a watch if you're into music, into movies
Grant:Yeah.
Drew:Into Timothee Chalamet.
Grant:Yes.
Drew:Into whatever. Yeah.
Grant:Into Soul My Line and you wanna follow along.
Drew:Heck yeah.
Grant:But, yeah, spoiler Band Aid ripped off. It is ripped. We are we are ready to talk about spoilers, Drew. Something I really appreciate about this movie. Okay.
Grant:And I am comparing it to a lot of other biopics. Right. It did not dive at all into any like addiction storyline Mhmm. Or kind of bad manager storyline, which if you watch a lot of biopics, it kinda feels like every single one starts out with how they were super talented as a young person, and then they got into the industry, and then they got really famous, and they really started struggling with alcohol and drugs or whatever, and then they have a big performance, and then somewhere in there, there's a bad manager that just like is ruining their life. Right.
Grant:And then they have like a comeback performance, and it's like, you know, they overcame drugs, and they wrote four more albums, and then passed away peacefully with their family. This movie did not take that route No,
Drew:it did.
Grant:With the biopic. And I actually had a lot of respect for that, but that's long winded. I wanna hear your thoughts on
Drew:that too. Yeah. I think this movie felt very art based, and, like, I think it it painted and I don't again, don't really know anything about Bob Dylan, but it painted him as very, honestly, kind of a jerk for the whole movie.
Grant:Yeah. Kinda.
Drew:But he was very concerned about what he was making. Yeah. So it's like that I respect him for that and, like, the care of his craft. Mhmm. Now, he was just kinda mean to everybody
Grant:Yeah. Kinda the whole time. But Yeah. But and I don't know. Part of it too was it just kinda felt like it just kinda felt like he was prideful Yeah.
Grant:About Yeah. His art, but, like, also, everybody glazed in the whole movie. Wow. The fire is really sparking. Wow.
Grant:This is awesome. If you're watching on YouTube, you're getting a show right now.
Drew:This about to look so good.
Grant:It's gonna look great. I'm hoping we don't catch on fire over here. But, anyway, it felt like he was prideful about his music, but everybody praised his music. So, like, how are you not kind of prideful about your own art if everyone, literally everyone, is praising it too?
Drew:Yeah. And I'm like, my favorite part of the movie was the last thirty minutes where he's, like rocking out on the Yes. The stage. Yes. And everyone's booing him.
Drew:Yeah. I loved it. I thought it was so good.
Grant:Well, this movie, I think, was originally titled Going Electric, or maybe that was like a, you know, makeshift title. This movie was kind of in a development hell for like a second there. Mhmm. Like, Timothy Charlemagne was attached to this movie, and then James Mangold did Indiana Jones and did a bunch of other stuff before he got around to this movie. But, like, the whole story is really about the shift from his folk stuff to going electric.
Grant:Yeah. I'm curious. Do you think that you would have known that that was the point of the story without doing any research on the front end? Yes. Okay.
Grant:I do. Okay. Yeah. Cool. Because I was thinking about it, like, how might I not have fully understood what this movie was about had I not already known what it was about?
Grant:But
Drew:But I I only think I would have understood it based on literally the last twenty minutes.
Grant:Sure.
Drew:That's I do think the first two hour or the hour and a half kinda meandered, and I was thinking, I'm like, I don't really know what this movie's about. Yeah. Like, it's based on his love life, or is it based on this manager or him in the studio or him at this folk festival. There's It felt like there's a lot of moving parts. And I think they they landed the plane well enough, but there was still lots of loose ends
Grant:Yeah.
Drew:That I don't think they tied up
Grant:the last. Yeah. Yeah. I definitely I agree. I think compared to other biopics, because I've seen a lot, how do you feel like this one stacks up?
Grant:Because at a certain point, they all kinda do feel the same.
Drew:They all do feel the
Grant:same. It's rare when one really sticks out, but for me, leaving this one was like, oh, this was one of the better ones that felt a little less generic.
Drew:I agree.
Grant:And it also felt a little bit like it was more about him making music than about him, the persona.
Drew:Right. I agree. I I mean, again, I felt like this was very art focused, which I appreciated. Mhmm. I thought all the performances were absolutely phenomenal.
Grant:Yeah. They were great.
Drew:Really great. Like, was it Pete Seek? Was Edward Edward Norton's character. What's his name?
Grant:Oh, I don't I don't remember. I wish I did. I mean, like,
Drew:this land is your land. Like, every American knows that song. Yeah. I didn't know he wrote that.
Grant:Yeah.
Drew:But he crushed it. I was like, that sounds exactly like a song.
Grant:Exactly.
Drew:Yeah. I don't know much about the female actors, the characters they were portraying, but I thought all the performances were just so good. Mhmm. I thought Johnny Cash, whoever played him, crushed it.
Grant:Yeah. There's a lot of great stuff, like, in this movie, actually.
Drew:And, like, all of these are icons. So no matter the however much screen time you have, it's like, if you get that performance wrong
Grant:It kinda ruins the movie.
Drew:Gonna know. Yeah. And it will ruin the movie.
Grant:Yeah. Something when I was watching this movie, and it's kinda related, kinda not, but I guess I was Like, I'm not in the folk scene at all.
Drew:Yeah. Neither am I, really.
Grant:I don't I don't know a ton about folk history in the fifties and sixties. Right? So, for me, it was a little shocking to see like huge crowds for someone to just get up.
Drew:I know. I'm like surprised by that.
Grant:And I I feel bad saying that because like, I am fully aware that like, his music is deserving of that praise, but part of me a little bit of disbelief in the moment of did crowds gather like that for Bob Dylan? But in reality, they probably did because, I mean, I I don't know. I I didn't do a lot of research on this movie, but I I had a little bit of a disbelief moment. Like, why are so many people like dissing to Bob Dylan? Yeah.
Grant:But I feel bad saying that because I think he's great. Like, I don't know.
Drew:Yeah. In terms of other biopics, I'm trying to think of the ones I've seen Elvis Mhmm. Which I thought was good. Was just kinda dark. But I mean, Elvis' story is dark, so it's like I probably have This was the best, or I liked this biopic the most Yeah.
Drew:That I've seen, probably.
Grant:Okay. Yeah. That's fair. I've seen a handful. I've seen, you know, Bohemian Rhapsody
Drew:Right.
Grant:Rocketman, Ray Yeah. Yeah. Walk the Line. Also, James Mangold, we talked about this.
Drew:We did talk about this.
Grant:I've seen a handful. Yeah. I think this one did a good job of it's kind of just about a snapshot of Bob Dylan's life Yeah. To do. I So I feel like it did a good job of not biting off too much more than it could chew, even if it did feel like it was meandering a little bit.
Grant:I still think it did a good job of staying focused. So But yeah. Do you have anything else you wanna talk about?
Drew:Or I do.
Grant:Okay. Ask ask away.
Drew:So my uncle Oh. Huge, massive Bob Dylan fan.
Grant:Okay. Is that where you got the jacket and glasses or no?
Drew:This is not where I got the jacket and glasses. He also is a moderately large stole my line fan. Oh. Yo. So he listens.
Grant:Shout out your uncle.
Drew:What's name? Shout out uncle Tim.
Grant:Uncle Tim.
Drew:But I texted him earlier today, I was like Oh.
Grant:I I had no idea you didn't.
Drew:This is awesome. Surprise.
Grant:This is awesome.
Drew:Was like, what's up uncle Tim? I'm like, tell me why you like Bob Dylan so
Grant:much. Okay.
Drew:I was like I was like, we're reviewing it on the podcast.
Grant:I see you scrolling through essays right now.
Drew:This is this is what he wrote.
Grant:Show show the viewers if if
Drew:you want. Can see this. He wrote he is prone to writing essays, but this was a this was like a college level essay. So I'm not gonna read all of it, but I am gonna read.
Grant:We can post it maybe.
Drew:Yeah. Maybe we can.
Grant:We'll put it in the comment section maybe maybe if we don't hit the word cap. Anyway.
Drew:We definitely will. But I'm gonna read the last section of his text, and I think this conversation needs to be had regarding this movie. Okay. Alright. I watched this is from my uncle.
Drew:I watched the Academy Awards this year for the first time ever hoping he would win, referring to Timothy. Which,
Grant:yeah, we need to talk about that.
Drew:He would win best actor. I believed he was robbed and here's why. It's really hard to play historical figure that people are familiar with and have you believe that you're actually watching that historical person. Yeah. As a true fan of Dylan, I believe Chalamet accomplished this.
Drew:I can't wait to listen to your podcast, and thanks for asking.
Grant:Dude, shout out Uncle Tim.
Drew:Shout out Uncle Tim.
Grant:Love you. I I don't think I've ever met you, but hey, we we love our listeners here. I feel bad because I didn't follow this past Oscars as much as I normally do. Yeah. Who won?
Grant:So Best actor.
Drew:Adrian Brody won for the Brutalist.
Grant:For the Brutalist. Right. Which,
Drew:to clarify, I haven't seen.
Grant:I have not seen either. I feel bad, like, saying Tiffany should've won because I didn't watch any of the other ones, really.
Drew:I think the conversation that I would like to have is because I think other actors have kinda gotten snubbed for this in the past. Mhmm. Austin Butler for Elvis, etcetera. But I think it is I think my uncle's right. I think uncle Tim's right when he says, it's harder to play a well known character than it is a character that you've made up.
Drew:Yeah. But I do think the biopic actor genre continues to get snubbed for portraying a real life character.
Grant:Yeah. I I feel bad saying this too. Sometimes it can feel like Oscar bait to me. Like, It I
Drew:does feel like Oscar bait, but I don't think it's worked.
Grant:No. Yeah. That's the thing. Like, I I guess Rami Malek won.
Drew:Did win. That's true.
Grant:Jamie Foxx won for Ray. But I can't think of I'm sure there are more. I can't think of a lot off the top of my head for Specifically, like, the music artist biopic that have won, like, it's not like every year, you know, or every other year that's what's winning. So I
Drew:would say Austin Butler and Timothee Chalamet might have the best biopic performances.
Grant:Yeah. Yeah. I I mean, I need to do a little more research, but I agree. I mean, I think this performance was better than Rami Malek's.
Drew:I totally agree. And now
Grant:that was a that was a weird year too. Also, think Bradley Cooper was snubbed. Star is Born is really good, by the way.
Drew:I haven't seen it.
Grant:Well, maybe we'll We did it good. Digressing. I think I agree because I was really impressed by Timothy because I know that he did a lot of his own guitar work and vocal work. Right. I mean, anything that was dubbed, it was probably him in the studio still seeing that same stuff.
Grant:Yeah. I mean, there was a scene where he was playing with Joan. It was like his last performance with Joan that they were, like, doing it acoustic. It was towards the end of the movie, and the vocals were incredible. Yeah.
Grant:They were
Drew:And I
Grant:was like, I think that's both the actors. Maybe not live, but like, that's their voices. And I was watching all this guitar playing. One of my pet peeves in movies is when I watch someone play piano or play guitar, and I can tell. I could just tell that they're But, not playing it for like, man, I'm not like a guitarist or anything, but I'm around enough to know what real guitar playing looks like, and I mean, it was legit.
Grant:Yeah. He did great. And to do all that, plus the acting, plus the mannerisms, like the little stuff with his voice and everything, I'm not a big Bob Dylan person, but to hear that from your uncle, it makes me, I guess, wanna praise this performance even more. And when we were suggested, you know, to review this movie by Jack Summersby, he mentioned like, I think that Timothy was robbed.
Drew:Yeah.
Grant:Yeah. And I I'm not gonna say this like as my final thoughts without having seen all the other movies, but I definitely could get on board that he was robbed.
Drew:I can too, for sure. Yeah. Yeah. I I I think there's a performance aspect you have to look at, but then also, like, the commitment and the amount of work has to be recognized to some extent.
Grant:Yeah. Don't just show up on set knowing your lines. Like Yeah. Like There's months and months of play.
Drew:Timothy learned how to sing in a different voice Mhmm. How to play guitar Mhmm. Had to portray someone who is a cultural icon.
Grant:Yes.
Drew:For, like, not just our generation, but like generations.
Grant:Also who's still alive. There's like an added pressure there a Yeah. Little I don't know. Yeah.
Drew:Now, Adrian Brody could have absolutely crushed in The Brutalist.
Grant:I I need to see The Brutalist.
Drew:I've actually wanted to us know.
Grant:Yeah. I've wanted to watch that. But comment below, do you think Timothy was snubbed or maybe for a past past performance? I know he's been nominated for a lot over the years. Is there something else you're like, this is his best performance.
Drew:Is he gonna be our generation's Leo where he never wins an Oscar for
Grant:the longest Until, like, he does a he does a okay movie.
Drew:Until he eats a liver. Yeah. Is that what it's gonna take for Timothee Chalamet to win an Oscar?
Grant:Okay. But here's a question, and I don't wanna dive too deep into this, but do you think Timothee Chalamet is our generation's Leo? Like, it because, I don't know.
Drew:I think from a range perspective.
Grant:He's a high profile, like, well known actor that was in the Oscar conversation almost, you know, every other year. Right. Was super well known, super popular, girls love him. I don't know. What do think?
Drew:I think from a range perspective, he should be. Yeah. I think Leo DiCaprio has one of the most impressive ranges.
Grant:Yeah. I
Drew:mean, at least in the like, he should be in the conversation. Think Well,
Grant:also a consistent level of work Exactly. Everything Leo does, even if it's, like, not the best movie, he's still pretty good in it.
Drew:He's still yeah. Yeah. I mean, I think Timothee Chalamet honestly has a more Mhmm. Impressive range when it comes. And I think I would say his his quality of work from a film perspective is not maybe as high caliber as Leo's has been, but, like
Grant:He's also only been around He's
Drew:also only, like, 20.
Grant:He might be in his thirties. I don't know. Really? I don't know. He's he's not too
Drew:much 26.
Grant:Timothy Chamay. Oh, I was close. Right? He's 29.
Drew:So he's still
Grant:in his twenties. Okay. You're right. You're right. Okay.
Grant:I mean, he's still got a lot of acting Yeah. I mean ahead of him. So yeah. I don't know. Is there anything else we can talk about for this movie?
Drew:No. I think that's it.
Grant:Well, let's go ahead and do this. Let's go ahead and give our rating. Our, you know, do we buy it on Blu ray? Do we watch it in theaters? If you're able to, or should you at least try to watch it in theaters?
Grant:Do you watch it on streaming and, you know, go down the list? What do you I know where I land on this movie.
Drew:I think we're gonna land on
Grant:the same spot. Okay. I'm gonna go streaming.
Drew:That's where I was gonna go.
Grant:And I feel bad. This movie isn't like super standout. Like, this is one of the greatest movies of all time.
Drew:Yep. But
Grant:it's I a solid watch. If you wanna watch it, and you, you know, can pop on Hulu and watch it, like, go for it. I think it's a great watch, but there's nothing about this movie that I think I'll I will revisit time and time again.
Drew:Yeah. I agree.
Grant:Or like, it's just one of the greatest movies ever made. I think it's a really solid movie though. Yep. But yeah. Do you have anything you wanna add to that?
Drew:Nope. No, I do not.
Grant:Well, that's the episode. Yeah. Comment below if you have questions or thoughts on any of what we talked about today. Yep. And are you excited for Marty Supreme this Christmas?
Drew:Because I don't know about you, but I am very excited for this movie.
Grant:I I when I saw that Timothy Charlamagne was playing a ping or playing a ping pong player,
Drew:yeah,
Grant:in a Safdie movie, I was like, what is what are we talking about right now? But then all the reviews have been raved for it. So
Drew:Here here's the things I'm I'm looking forward to. A Safdie movie.
Grant:Okay.
Drew:You know I love Safdie movies. Yes. Timothee Chalamet. Yes. And Tyler the Creator.
Grant:Right. Right. He is
Drew:in that movie. He's in that movie.
Grant:Oh my gosh. I'm so excited. We're we will review that one. I promise. Yep.
Grant:We're gonna get around to
Drew:it. Yep.
Grant:Yeah. Lord of the Reach.
Drew:Lord of Rings.
Grant:It's happening. Go go buckle in. Quick preview for that series. We will be watching the extended versions, but if you don't watch the extended versions, it's okay. Yeah.
Grant:There's not so much in those that like, it's gonna completely alter you listening to the podcast. Agreed. If you don't wanna sit through almost twelve hours of Lord of the Rings, you just wanna sit through like nine, we won't knock you. But hey, you have the time for it, go check out all the extended versions of, Lord of Rings. I think they're all on HBO to my knowledge.
Grant:Maybe. They should be.
Drew:I don't know. I just own them on discs.
Grant:I own them on Blu ray. Yeah.
Drew:So Spoiler alert for a review.
Grant:Yeah. But anyway, yeah. Go catch up on those. And hey, we love you guys.
Drew:We do.
Grant:Thanks for the support. We're steadily growing and excited to keep doing this thing. So take a break. Enjoy the film. We'll see you next time.
Drew:Heck yeah.
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