# The Avatar Movie is a WIN for Fans - Fireside Discussion
# Transcribed 2026-07-27 07:13
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[00:00:00 - 00:00:06] Today could be considered a monumental day and stole my line history drew do you want to know why I am so curious number one
[00:00:06 - 00:00:08] There's there's multiple reasons number one
[00:00:08 - 00:00:12] We are officially foray into the avatar of the last airbender universe the
[00:00:13 - 00:00:19] Atlaatla universe atla universe to we're talking about a movie that has been leaked online before this is true
[00:00:19 - 00:00:25] So there's gonna be interesting conversation there and three most importantly. We have a special guest
[00:00:25 - 00:00:29] We probably the person who's waited the longest to be on this podcast and has asked me the most times
[00:00:30 - 00:00:37] And it is my incredible brother Luke Crenshaw. Hello. Yeah, I stole my line. This is awesome. I'm so happy to be here
[00:00:50 - 00:00:56] Before we get into avatar drew I promise you can bring your guests on the podcast how about same time next week
[00:00:56 - 00:00:58] How about next week next week?
[00:00:58 - 00:01:01] That's a teaser. We're talking about
[00:01:02 - 00:01:07] Avatar aink or the legend of aink or whatever this movie is called. I didn't even know they changed the title
[00:01:08 - 00:01:13] What is the title now? It's now avatar aink the last airbender also Luke and I are brothers and we sound similar
[00:01:13 - 00:01:16] Yeah, so if you're listening on audio, you might just have to guess
[00:01:16 - 00:01:19] I thought they didn't sound similar and then we did like a blind test
[00:01:19 - 00:01:22] It was harder than I thought if you're on YouTube just close your eyes
[00:01:24 - 00:01:27] What we're just gonna say the word. Yeah, okay. Yeah
[00:01:28 - 00:01:31] Yeah, I can only tell because of like proximity
[00:01:32 - 00:01:39] Let us know online if you figured that out. Um, okay talking about the legend of aink. Yes, we're avatar aink whatever we're calling it
[00:01:40 - 00:01:41] Luke. Yeah
[00:01:41 - 00:01:47] You are officially our resident avatar the last airbender expert. Yes, that that's a big honor
[00:01:47 - 00:01:52] It's kind of why you're on the podcast on yeah, well, we were gonna do a
[00:01:52 - 00:01:57] Braveheart episode actually cuz that's my favorite movie. Um, we might get around to that one day
[00:01:57 - 00:01:59] we might uh
[00:01:59 - 00:02:00] but
[00:02:00 - 00:02:02] Grant was like well drew hasn't seen
[00:02:03 - 00:02:07] All of that avatar. I have seen the first season when I was probably
[00:02:08 - 00:02:10] 11 and genuinely that's pretty unforgivable
[00:02:11 - 00:02:15] I'm sorry, but in this instance, we've just put a band-aid on it. Yeah
[00:02:17 - 00:02:18] Yes, um
[00:02:18 - 00:02:24] Well, let me start by saying that this is my favorite piece of media ever like I love this universe
[00:02:25 - 00:02:27] I love the gang with the two a's
[00:02:29 - 00:02:33] These characters Aang, Sokka, Tof, Katara, and Zuko are like my favorite characters ever
[00:02:34 - 00:02:36] And it's my favorite show
[00:02:37 - 00:02:40] Severance is number two. So so got some taste. Yeah
[00:02:41 - 00:02:47] I doubt you. Well, let's see how it hurts, but yeah, I would do what's your third third show. Yeah
[00:02:48 - 00:02:50] I
[00:02:50 - 00:02:54] Don't know like off the dome, but like I love Seinfeld and stuff like that like a huge Seinfeld fan
[00:02:54 - 00:02:56] I think it's the funny show out there
[00:02:57 - 00:02:58] but I
[00:02:58 - 00:03:03] Maybe psych psych might be number three psych is great. Yes, sir. That makes you happy
[00:03:05 - 00:03:10] But yeah, I I started watching avatar last airbender my friends
[00:03:10 - 00:03:12] I was in sixth grade. I was 12 and they were like, dude, you have to watch the show
[00:03:12 - 00:03:15] and I was like, I don't want to watch it cuz like it looks like anime and
[00:03:16 - 00:03:19] Watch it. I did and I
[00:03:19 - 00:03:20] I
[00:03:20 - 00:03:25] Just fell in love with it and it's so good and I probably
[00:03:25 - 00:03:27] rewatch it once a year
[00:03:27 - 00:03:32] Me and Grant watched it. We watched it this past year. Yeah, this past year slash like
[00:03:33 - 00:03:36] It kind of took us a long time to get through. It did take us a long time because I was kind of cooked schedule-wise
[00:03:36 - 00:03:42] Yeah, getting engaged and finishing school. But since then which we finished it when you think like a
[00:03:43 - 00:03:44] few months ago
[00:03:44 - 00:03:49] Like yeah, it wasn't that long ago, but since then I rewatched the whole thing with my wife
[00:03:49 - 00:03:55] Yes, and she loved it. Yes, so drew so now you have to watch it with me. No, I'm just
[00:03:56 - 00:04:03] Sure, I'll watch it with you. No, but look really quick. Yes, you had to sum up for maybe drew and then for our viewers
[00:04:04 - 00:04:09] One reason one brief reason why you love avatar the last day of the show. What would you say?
[00:04:15 - 00:04:16] I
[00:04:16 - 00:04:22] Think it's the character arcs and the world building. Yep. If you if you have watched the show
[00:04:23 - 00:04:26] Zuko's character arc is probably the best character arc and
[00:04:27 - 00:04:30] Maybe ever it is so good
[00:04:30 - 00:04:35] You just really fall in love with these characters and this duo of what not duo like this
[00:04:38 - 00:04:40] Hamad's is that the right word?
[00:04:41 - 00:04:44] Well, yeah, so my words so my line
[00:04:45 - 00:04:51] But I don't know you just you fall in love with aang and like he starts out. It's just like a really goofy kid that
[00:04:52 - 00:04:54] Saka and Katara found in the iceberg
[00:04:55 - 00:05:01] And then you really start to fall in love with them three and like Zuko's the main villain and you like kind of like Uncle
[00:05:01 - 00:05:02] Iro and you're like I like this guy
[00:05:02 - 00:05:05] But he's still a villain and his character arc is great
[00:05:05 - 00:05:10] And so I think it's the character arcs and the world bending world bending world building. Let's go
[00:05:11 - 00:05:19] but the bending is like super cool element of that and like I think the avatar concept is a super interesting one and the avatar cycle and
[00:05:22 - 00:05:24] Yeah, so I would say that that's why okay
[00:05:24 - 00:05:30] I would say just to add on very briefly that I think the storytelling is built on
[00:05:30 - 00:05:37] Yes, the characters and their relationships with each other which that sounds like oh, yeah, of course it is
[00:05:39 - 00:05:45] How many pieces of media don't actually do that, but like it's such a core part of the three seasons of avatar
[00:05:45 - 00:05:49] Yeah, absolutely, and I think that's why it's held up over 20 years
[00:05:49 - 00:05:53] So that's my favorite thing and upon my second watch recently
[00:05:53 - 00:05:53] I was like man
[00:05:53 - 00:05:58] I love that about the show and I generally think it's one of the best written stories
[00:05:58 - 00:06:05] At least put the kind of the screen maybe ever so I'd be it might sound like glaze, but it's worthy of it
[00:06:05 - 00:06:11] So I don't deny any of that because I haven't seen it. I do you want to watch I well two things
[00:06:11 - 00:06:16] Yes, definitely. I do and watching this movie made me want to watch avatar
[00:06:16 - 00:06:20] That's great. That's even more than I did and like I have known that I've needed to
[00:06:20 - 00:06:24] Get around to watching it because everyone I've ever talked to is like oh my gosh, it's incredible
[00:06:25 - 00:06:27] But I just have him
[00:06:27 - 00:06:33] Yeah, very fair. Well, I think it's time to actually dive into starting. Sorry that we had a little of a preamble there, but it's okay
[00:06:33 - 00:06:39] So I mean there's multiple places we can start. Let's just start spoiler-free thoughts. Yes
[00:06:40 - 00:06:43] Drew, what did you think yes as a non avatar fan?
[00:06:43 - 00:06:48] Well first I thought it was did a and this might have been annoying if you are an avatar fan
[00:06:48 - 00:06:55] But for someone who is not I got all the information I needed about the world in about seven minutes
[00:06:55 - 00:07:01] I was like great. I'm on board. Yeah, I have enough lore understanding to be like I get why everything matters
[00:07:01 - 00:07:03] Yes, so that was super helpful
[00:07:05 - 00:07:08] But I enjoyed this movie a lot I thought the animation was great
[00:07:08 - 00:07:13] Yes, it is very good. Visually this movie looked phenomenal. I thought the characters
[00:07:14 - 00:07:21] Were good. There was a lot of inside jokes. I didn't get but that's probably because I haven't seen the show
[00:07:21 - 00:07:23] Yes, which is completely on me
[00:07:23 - 00:07:25] I
[00:07:25 - 00:07:29] Thought the villain was pretty good. Yeah, I thought and and
[00:07:31 - 00:07:38] Taga Taga there you go up the dome. Let's go. Taga's relationship was good was interesting enough to carry the movie and
[00:07:39 - 00:07:44] I thought all the side cast. I mean, yeah, I think this movie is very good
[00:07:44 - 00:07:51] Okay, that's what I thought Luke. Yes only that get just brief overview. Yeah with like no spoilers
[00:07:51 - 00:07:53] What'd you think?
[00:07:53 - 00:07:57] I thought it was very good as a huge avatar fan, which I'll say this
[00:07:57 - 00:08:03] For I'm going in as a senior in high school and we do we're doing like senior lunchboxes and mine is after last
[00:08:03 - 00:08:09] I saw it in the fridge when I filled up this water bottle doing like a lunchbox for your senior year
[00:08:09 - 00:08:14] Yeah, so it's like my class is getting like a lot of people have spider-man my girlfriend is getting plenty the poo
[00:08:16 - 00:08:18] That's a good pool
[00:08:18 - 00:08:23] Has lightning McQueen someone got Mike Wazowski for Monster's University and yours is out of mine is out
[00:08:23 - 00:08:27] I think mine's the best, but yeah, the movie was very very good
[00:08:27 - 00:08:31] I loved it as a huge avatar fan
[00:08:31 - 00:08:37] I've seen every piece of avatar media put out except the second season of the live-action show
[00:08:37 - 00:08:41] Which I don't really want to hold a whole different conversation. That's a whole different conversation
[00:08:41 - 00:08:43] Isn't there another movie by him?
[00:08:43 - 00:08:45] I
[00:08:56 - 00:09:03] Was a child I was a child I checked it out from the library not knowing what it was at like 10 years old, okay
[00:09:03 - 00:09:09] That's still almost unforgivable. Sorry. Yeah, because you were 10 years old if you were 11 you'd be off the pod
[00:09:10 - 00:09:12] But the movie was great
[00:09:17 - 00:09:23] Before I saw the show too, that's so stupid. Okay. I didn't know I was doing over the child. All right, Luke. Please keep talking
[00:09:25 - 00:09:27] My name is on no
[00:09:29 - 00:09:33] Yes, so the legend of Aang was great and as a huge avatar fan
[00:09:33 - 00:09:37] I loved it the inside jokes warms my heart
[00:09:37 - 00:09:40] It just made me really happy to see my favorite characters on screen again
[00:09:40 - 00:09:42] and to be together and to face
[00:09:44 - 00:09:46] evil together
[00:09:46 - 00:09:48] and
[00:09:48 - 00:09:52] I still thought like I agree with Drew that this movie is very accessible
[00:09:53 - 00:09:59] For people who haven't seen the show and I think that's the point and why a lot of avatar fans have gripes with it
[00:09:59 - 00:10:01] Which we can get into later
[00:10:01 - 00:10:03] But overall I thought it was great
[00:10:03 - 00:10:07] The animation was just gorgeous. It finally got some animation that the show deserves
[00:10:08 - 00:10:10] and
[00:10:11 - 00:10:17] Yeah, so it was great. I loved it and it was fun because I went over to Grant and Pauly's house and they made me like a
[00:10:18 - 00:10:20] Ghibli slash avatar
[00:10:22 - 00:10:24] It was great
[00:10:24 - 00:10:30] Was I not invited well, you know, you probably had something you did you were like I have work and so you wouldn't buy
[00:10:30 - 00:10:31] Yeah
[00:10:31 - 00:10:38] No, but I agree with everything you said Luke and you drew like I think I have issues with this movie from like
[00:10:39 - 00:10:41] There's smaller issues and they don't ruin the movie. I had a great time
[00:10:41 - 00:10:46] I think the animation is genuinely incredible like I this might sound like glaze
[00:10:46 - 00:10:52] But if we're talking about modern animation, I think it's kind of on par with something like listen boots or absolutely
[00:10:52 - 00:10:54] I even say spider-verse and like that sounds crazy
[00:10:55 - 00:10:59] It's not the same type of animation, but I think I think it's very high quality. I agree. It's very high quality
[00:11:00 - 00:11:02] Look, I mean like we don't have to get too deep into this
[00:11:02 - 00:11:07] But it is a shame that this was leaked and also we didn't get to see it in theaters
[00:11:07 - 00:11:10] I did think that I was like this movie would have been sick in theaters
[00:11:11 - 00:11:13] Yeah, sorry, it made me really sad that
[00:11:14 - 00:11:19] This wasn't put in theaters because like I watched this movie as like my 12-year-old self
[00:11:20 - 00:11:25] And I really would have loved to see this in theaters. So and it's really sad. I got leaked online
[00:11:25 - 00:11:28] I didn't watch it when it got leaked because I wanted yeah, I didn't either came out
[00:11:29 - 00:11:35] Simitation was there because it was and everybody was watching I was like now I feel left out and I saw clips of it
[00:11:35 - 00:11:38] I'm like this looks really cool, but I don't want it spoiled for me
[00:11:38 - 00:11:42] Yeah, I think that the issues that I have are not they don't break the movie for me
[00:11:42 - 00:11:47] It is about like who is this movie for and we'll get into that but that's a good question
[00:11:47 - 00:11:50] Yeah, it is an important question that we'll talk about later in this podcast
[00:11:50 - 00:11:51] But for right now
[00:11:51 - 00:11:56] Let's give our spoiler-free just stole my line rating for this movie because I think people
[00:11:57 - 00:11:59] Will watch this and want to know if they should see it or not
[00:11:59 - 00:12:06] I have a rating that is incredibly ironic. Well before we do that Luke. Oh, yeah, I want to introduce our stole my line rating
[00:12:06 - 00:12:12] Yes, I know it. We should continue to do for guests. Yes. Um, so if we have famous people that don't know
[00:12:16 - 00:12:18] I'm gonna start at the bottom
[00:12:18 - 00:12:24] This is avoid at all costs. You do not want to watch this movie like rise the Skywalker dare
[00:12:24 - 00:12:25] I say spider-man 3
[00:12:25 - 00:12:28] Well, we did not put it there. We didn't put it there. We didn't put it there
[00:12:28 - 00:12:33] You should know I agree with Grant, but uh, I don't know the dancing scenes funny, but
[00:12:34 - 00:12:37] Then you have watch free on to be which
[00:12:38 - 00:12:40] Actually, we watched the blue the blu-ray of
[00:12:41 - 00:12:44] Legally blonde to which you should have void at all costs, but
[00:12:45 - 00:12:48] Yeah, that was a bad that was bad, but I'm trying to think of like a
[00:12:49 - 00:12:52] Good we put do we put Eddington watch on to be
[00:12:54 - 00:12:59] Three. Yeah, like those are the ones we slapped or like saw ten
[00:12:59 - 00:13:06] Sorry, whoever put all the saw movies on their letterbox top for Luke has ball. No, I watch their podcast a lot
[00:13:06 - 00:13:15] These are inside jokes that not a lot. Yes, but and then you have watch it on streaming so like buy it or like watch on Netflix or buy it on
[00:13:16 - 00:13:22] Amazon or watch it free on Paramount Plus like this movie was and then you have go watch it in theaters and then
[00:13:22 - 00:13:27] The holy grail of stole my line is by the 4k you HD
[00:13:27 - 00:13:31] Like we should steal like blu-ray say buy it on blu-ray, but not like we should say buy it on 4k
[00:13:31 - 00:13:36] Okay, should we buy it on 4k? Let us know audience if we should rebrand. Yes. I kind of like buy it on blu-ray
[00:13:36 - 00:13:42] It's it rolls all the time. Um, so well should we all say what we think yeah, what should be
[00:13:44 - 00:13:50] Can I say like what I personally would put this as for myself say it but then like we need a realistic rating
[00:13:50 - 00:13:52] Yes, yes, I would say for myself
[00:13:52 - 00:13:57] I want to own this on blu-ray because like I just love this universe and also to own everything
[00:13:58 - 00:14:03] Would be great, but I think let's say do we want to say at the same time you go first and I'll go then
[00:14:03 - 00:14:05] I would say
[00:14:06 - 00:14:11] Go watch it in theaters if it was out in theaters, which if you're in New York or LA you yes
[00:14:11 - 00:14:17] Do that so I hope that experience is great. We're not in either of those cities very if you can't tell from our background
[00:14:17 - 00:14:25] What do you mean this looks very this is this is basically I think I would also say this would be
[00:14:25 - 00:14:27] This would be a great theater experience
[00:14:27 - 00:14:33] Which is why it's sadder that this is like not a wide theater experience
[00:14:34 - 00:14:36] Because the animation is that good
[00:14:36 - 00:14:41] I think that I will choose to own this on blu-ray if Paramount does a blu-ray release because I own
[00:14:42 - 00:14:46] Avatar on blu-ray and like to keep that collection complete blood, but
[00:14:47 - 00:14:50] Streaming so good. I mean, it's not a bad experience on streaming for sure
[00:14:51 - 00:14:55] I also agree. I think I my my vote's theater as well. Okay. Well
[00:14:58 - 00:15:02] We went a little long on that but hey, it's okay now, you know if you're in LA or New York go see it in theaters
[00:15:03 - 00:15:09] Um, okay. I guess we should just get into spoilers. Yes a little bit. Um, maybe we start with likes and dislikes
[00:15:09 - 00:15:13] So this is your spoiler warning for avatar ang legend of ang whatever you call it
[00:15:14 - 00:15:17] Um, I don't know who wants to start maybe drew do we start with you?
[00:15:17 - 00:15:23] I want to hear all your thoughts to hear about what you really liked about yes, please after I think I liked
[00:15:24 - 00:15:28] I really I mean again, I kind of said this in the non-spoiler portion, but I like the tension between
[00:15:29 - 00:15:32] Taga yep, Taga. Yes and ang
[00:15:33 - 00:15:37] um, again, this is this movie establishes the
[00:15:37 - 00:15:45] Culture of the airbenders enough to understand why there is tension. Yes, and
[00:15:46 - 00:15:48] Yeah, just the whole tension of like
[00:15:49 - 00:15:52] The earthbenders kill Taga's people the firebenders kill ang's people
[00:15:54 - 00:15:57] Like that's super interesting. You completely understand where Taga is coming from when he's like
[00:15:59 - 00:16:02] Hey, I'm gonna do everything I can to protect my people. Yeah. Oh, absolutely
[00:16:02 - 00:16:06] And like restart his people right and he wants the same thing right it's like
[00:16:07 - 00:16:09] They come from different backgrounds a little bit
[00:16:09 - 00:16:14] I think in general in storytelling when you have your antagonists and your protagonists want the same thing
[00:16:14 - 00:16:16] That is an incredibly interesting
[00:16:17 - 00:16:23] Thing I would just to watch yep, and then when ang makes the ultimate sacrifice of breaking the stick
[00:16:23 - 00:16:31] Not the ultimate sacrifice, but well sacrifice in the movie. It is an ultimate sacrifice. Um, I thought that was super good
[00:16:32 - 00:16:36] So themes and plot. I was super on board with okay
[00:16:36 - 00:16:39] That's cool. Yeah grant. I want to hear your thoughts
[00:16:39 - 00:16:43] Well, I guess starting with likes because I have a lot of likes obviously talked about the animation and stuff
[00:16:44 - 00:16:46] I think you'll probably talk about this too, luke
[00:16:47 - 00:16:52] But the gang feels like the gang like zuko feels like older zuko
[00:16:52 - 00:16:57] Um, I mean same with by steven yun, right? Yes shout out. Yeah
[00:16:57 - 00:17:01] Um, and then soca feels like older soca top definitely feels like older top
[00:17:02 - 00:17:06] Every moment top is on screen. I'm like that is top if she was 25 like yeah, that's that's accurate
[00:17:06 - 00:17:10] Um and say with aing guitar and you know, I think everybody
[00:17:10 - 00:17:16] Feels like the same characters. They didn't break the universe. They didn't do a disservice to any of the characters
[00:17:16 - 00:17:19] So like from that aspect, I really appreciated this movie
[00:17:20 - 00:17:24] Um, I think also there was a lot of talk kind of before this movie came out
[00:17:25 - 00:17:32] Or was leaked or whatever like is this voice cast just gonna ruin it because like the voice cast from the show is so distinct and has
[00:17:33 - 00:17:35] Is very like zuko for example
[00:17:35 - 00:17:41] Has a yeah very set distinct voice. Yes the voice cast here still it still feels like the characters
[00:17:41 - 00:17:43] Like steven yun is a great job as zuko like yes
[00:17:43 - 00:17:46] It still feels like zuko if he was a little older same with aing and guitar and top like
[00:17:47 - 00:17:52] Everybody still feels like them. So yeah, I appreciated that a ton. Um, I think
[00:17:53 - 00:17:58] As someone who like isn't super in the avatar universe. It still feels like
[00:17:59 - 00:18:03] An expansion of the world where they could um like
[00:18:03 - 00:18:09] They expanded it at least from the initial show, which I think more people have seen avatar than kora
[00:18:09 - 00:18:14] Um, it still feels like an expansion there a little bit. Um, so does a good job there. I mean
[00:18:15 - 00:18:17] Did the the music's great?
[00:18:17 - 00:18:22] Technically this movie's incredible. Yeah, same guy who did the avatar school
[00:18:22 - 00:18:27] Which is cool. It is awesome. Um, yeah, and then again visually it was like every single frame
[00:18:27 - 00:18:30] I was like, this is so beautiful. Um, I have some gripes
[00:18:31 - 00:18:37] But I want to save those when we talk about gripes. So luke any likes that you had? Um, yeah, I would say
[00:18:38 - 00:18:42] The gang for sure. I mean I these are my favorite characters
[00:18:42 - 00:18:48] I thought it was so funny when ang sends out all the messenger hawks and uh, well two of them
[00:18:49 - 00:18:52] Well, I guess all three of the interactions were super funny
[00:18:52 - 00:18:57] But socos was really funny when he starts talking about like, yeah, me and avatar ang like oh my gosh
[00:18:57 - 00:19:02] I was so impressed and it like does like the montage of him like super jacked and like kids are like this and like
[00:19:03 - 00:19:06] I was hilarious. Um, I think my favorite one was when
[00:19:07 - 00:19:12] Zuko gets kids and that might have been the funniest thing in the whole movie straight out. That was so funny
[00:19:12 - 00:19:13] and he's like
[00:19:13 - 00:19:20] Yo flameo hotman. What's up? Like I'm I hope that like I hope that guy that's really annoying you is like not annoying
[00:19:20 - 00:19:22] as much as he's right there and Zuko's like
[00:19:23 - 00:19:26] Like what are we doing ang but hilarious? It was it was awesome and then
[00:19:27 - 00:19:28] uh
[00:19:28 - 00:19:30] For anyone who's read the comics
[00:19:30 - 00:19:35] Uh, toff's metal bending academy gets a shout out and some of the characters that are in the comics are in there
[00:19:35 - 00:19:37] And I was like that's actually cool to see them in animation
[00:19:38 - 00:19:40] Um and get to see that academy a little
[00:19:41 - 00:19:43] um
[00:19:43 - 00:19:48] I like that republic city is already built which I forget what comic
[00:19:48 - 00:19:50] tackles that
[00:19:50 - 00:19:55] Um, but I like that's already kind of established and that it's like the hub of the four nations
[00:19:55 - 00:20:00] Well, that wasn't established in anything. It's not an avatar. No, it's not. No, that's a core thing
[00:20:00 - 00:20:04] This would be helpful if you'd seen avatar, but like the four nations are kind of at war
[00:20:05 - 00:20:06] I knew this
[00:20:06 - 00:20:10] The earth kingdom and water tribes are at war with the fire nation. So
[00:20:11 - 00:20:12] um
[00:20:13 - 00:20:15] Tago was great. I like the other
[00:20:16 - 00:20:18] uh
[00:20:18 - 00:20:23] Airbender stuff. I thought Dave fattisa did great voice acting. Um
[00:20:24 - 00:20:30] The animation was gorgeous. I really like who's the guy who plays ang eric. I forget his name
[00:20:30 - 00:20:32] Something I look it up. Um
[00:20:33 - 00:20:36] Let's see here you talk. I'll look it up. Um
[00:20:37 - 00:20:41] I thought ang was really awesome in this movie and I love
[00:20:42 - 00:20:48] His like his voice in his demeanor. He's also yoked in this movie. Uh, most of the characters were I have two years ang is 25
[00:20:48 - 00:20:53] I have two years to look like that any lock. I told poly. It's like, hey, that's my goal
[00:20:54 - 00:20:58] Should we shave your head and paint your head blue? I really hope I pronounced that right
[00:20:58 - 00:21:02] No, it's not. Yeah. Anyway, sure, but he did great and
[00:21:03 - 00:21:08] Going back to your point drew that like I understood everything and this is why
[00:21:08 - 00:21:10] ang feels this way and talk at us too
[00:21:11 - 00:21:15] And we're focusing on ang because ang is the avatar and he's the main character
[00:21:15 - 00:21:16] and a lot of
[00:21:16 - 00:21:22] I guess this is a gripe for me and grant but like we didn't focus much on like katar or zuko or
[00:21:22 - 00:21:25] Toph or soka. This is true because we're focusing on ang
[00:21:26 - 00:21:28] for people who have not seen this movie
[00:21:28 - 00:21:29] and
[00:21:29 - 00:21:31] Or or haven't seen the show
[00:21:32 - 00:21:34] Like people like drew
[00:21:34 - 00:21:37] That's a loss of a gripe because to me they're just side characters and
[00:21:37 - 00:21:41] With like that's the thing in the show. They're just not there like the main character
[00:21:41 - 00:21:46] So it does feel like a downgrade for sure. Yeah, but I didn't retcon anybody at all
[00:21:46 - 00:21:50] And everything one thing that made me happy is that everything was still in canon
[00:21:51 - 00:21:56] Like there is something uh when taga and ang are doing like the boomerang style like flying
[00:21:57 - 00:21:59] There's something in kora
[00:22:01 - 00:22:02] Um
[00:22:02 - 00:22:04] That was like ang is not
[00:22:04 - 00:22:06] Able to do this certain ability grant hasn't seen korya
[00:22:07 - 00:22:10] Um, I've seen part of it but part of it. I don't want to spoil it
[00:22:10 - 00:22:16] But there's something in season three that happens that i'm like ang isn't supposed to do that and I got really scared
[00:22:16 - 00:22:17] I was like
[00:22:17 - 00:22:22] I don't want him to be flying around, but he's not it's like different and it's like using each other's
[00:22:23 - 00:22:23] weight to
[00:22:23 - 00:22:27] Fly around and break tornadoes, which I thought was really cool. That sequence is sick
[00:22:27 - 00:22:29] Uh, the nenied were pretty cool
[00:22:30 - 00:22:33] Uh, I think they were a good addition to the world like it makes sense that people who
[00:22:34 - 00:22:39] Weren't benders would be like well the sucks that we're not benders and we have less power than everybody. Yeah, um
[00:22:41 - 00:22:45] I thought the story was good. I thought the fight sequences were sick
[00:22:45 - 00:22:50] They were they were they were super. There was not a bad fight sequence. No, that was not the end scene
[00:22:51 - 00:22:56] Fight scene with taga and ang was super. I'm just getting smoked out of my mind right now. Yeah, that's it
[00:22:57 - 00:23:02] Welcome to stop my line. I think that a lot of the bending gets like a visual upgrade to
[00:23:02 - 00:23:07] Oh, by the way, welcome to my line a fire show podcast. I'm grand. I'm drew and I'm lou. Yeah, sorry
[00:23:07 - 00:23:10] I just forgot to do that. So we're doing it now in the podcast, but um
[00:23:11 - 00:23:14] Yeah, I think a lot of the bending gets like a visual upgrade the fire. It looks sick
[00:23:15 - 00:23:19] Oh, the water being looks sick. I mean tops metal bending academy sequence where she's just like
[00:23:20 - 00:23:26] Smoking all of her students was awesome. Like every bending sequence is incredible. It's top blind. Yes, okay
[00:23:26 - 00:23:31] That would be helpful. If you never got to season two you have no idea who toff is that is fair. I do now
[00:23:32 - 00:23:34] It's pretty good. Yeah representation toff. So
[00:23:36 - 00:23:38] When since toff is blind
[00:23:38 - 00:23:39] Did you ever
[00:23:39 - 00:23:44] Notice when she like stomps into the ground and like it kind of does like echolocation to like see where people are
[00:23:44 - 00:23:50] I thought she just had like what's really good at echolocation. You saw that she was like daredevil. Yeah, loki
[00:23:50 - 00:23:52] Yeah, so she's actually not the craziest comp. It's not
[00:23:53 - 00:23:58] Um, but she uses earth bending to like sense around her and basically her eyes or her feet
[00:23:58 - 00:24:00] And I think one of the funniest
[00:24:00 - 00:24:02] I think that's jokes and the show's
[00:24:02 - 00:24:06] Toughest like they get to this place. She's she's like we're here and they see nothing in guitars
[00:24:06 - 00:24:11] Like, uh, I think your feet need their eyes checked like that is funny. But yeah, it was great
[00:24:11 - 00:24:14] Yeah, the movie. Um, maybe we can get into some gripes
[00:24:14 - 00:24:19] Um, kind of just go across the line again because I feel like there's a lots of like in this movie
[00:24:19 - 00:24:21] Yes, I have some issues with it
[00:24:21 - 00:24:24] Especially if you're an avatar fan, which I know I'm a younger avatar fan
[00:24:24 - 00:24:27] But I've still seen the show twice and the show came out to them five, right?
[00:24:27 - 00:24:33] Yeah and five ended in 08. Yep. So Drew, did you have any gripes? If so, what were they?
[00:24:34 - 00:24:37] I don't really think I honestly had any gripes. I mean
[00:24:39 - 00:24:42] I think maybe and this isn't really a gripe
[00:24:44 - 00:24:46] But I'm like
[00:24:46 - 00:24:48] Tonally
[00:24:48 - 00:24:49] Oh, thanks
[00:24:49 - 00:24:53] Tonally this movie did feel a little strange and maybe that's just kind of how avatar is but like
[00:24:54 - 00:24:56] There would be these super serious moments of like
[00:24:58 - 00:25:03] Lots of depth and loss of character and then kind of like these almost k-pop demon hunter moments of like
[00:25:04 - 00:25:06] super stylized animation and like
[00:25:06 - 00:25:12] Like big faces and like that totally kind of felt a little off, but yeah, I'm like huge
[00:25:12 - 00:25:18] It does feel honestly like an extension of the show though. Yeah, that's how the show feels, but
[00:25:19 - 00:25:22] That makes sense. So if you're new to avatar, you're probably not like used to that. So that's fair
[00:25:23 - 00:25:24] Um any other gripes?
[00:25:24 - 00:25:28] I thought it was great. I like I really enjoyed it. Perfect. Yeah, awesome. Well, that's actually good to hear
[00:25:28 - 00:25:32] I kind of didn't know if you would enjoy this or not having not seen the show fully. So
[00:25:32 - 00:25:35] Um, I have a few and I think this is kind of the question
[00:25:35 - 00:25:39] Maybe we can all talk about like who is this movie for yes. So like
[00:25:40 - 00:25:45] This show came out like the show came out in 2005. Yep. So a lot of people grew up on this show
[00:25:45 - 00:25:48] I grew up at least knowing what the show was
[00:25:48 - 00:25:53] Um, I grew up a little bit more on clone wars, but like so same-ish time period
[00:25:53 - 00:25:56] I grew up on the show even though it I didn't grow up on it coming out
[00:25:56 - 00:26:01] But like the people who are like grew up on the show and our fans of it are in their 20s and 30s at this point like
[00:26:02 - 00:26:05] I mean, I'm in my 20s. Um, so
[00:26:05 - 00:26:08] Who do you think this movie is for like do you think it's for
[00:26:09 - 00:26:11] New avatar fans because it kind of feels like it's for new avatar fans
[00:26:12 - 00:26:17] But I have a feeling most of the people who are going to be watching this are old avatar fans
[00:26:17 - 00:26:19] So like thoughts on that
[00:26:19 - 00:26:21] Because I think that's where some of my gripes stem from
[00:26:22 - 00:26:27] What are your gripe specifically? Okay. Here's some of my gripes. I think compared to the show
[00:26:27 - 00:26:32] This movie focus, I mean we've said it, but it focuses a lot more on ink, which is okay
[00:26:32 - 00:26:35] But I think this is a little more like we have to go
[00:26:36 - 00:26:38] Get the thing like get the macguffin
[00:26:38 - 00:26:45] Shout out macguffins. We lost all my line macguffin. Um, the the staff of sonam. Yes, we have to go get this staff
[00:26:46 - 00:26:49] To go get like and the motivations are good, but like
[00:26:50 - 00:26:51] avatar
[00:26:51 - 00:26:55] It in the show it's all about these inner character dynamics and like yes
[00:26:55 - 00:26:56] They go on different adventures and stuff
[00:26:56 - 00:26:58] But like what makes the show good is when
[00:26:59 - 00:27:01] Ang and Katara have tension or toffin Katara
[00:27:02 - 00:27:04] Whenever he has tension with Katara. No, I'm just
[00:27:04 - 00:27:06] But like with Zuko
[00:27:06 - 00:27:11] Yeah, really, but when like Zuko and iro like they have a whole relationship there
[00:27:11 - 00:27:18] Um, obviously Zuko and Azula Zuko and Katara Zuko and Ang like Zuko and his dad
[00:27:18 - 00:27:22] And the show really gets good when you get into these inner character dynamics
[00:27:23 - 00:27:26] There's a moment in this that stuck out to me that like kind of frustrated me
[00:27:27 - 00:27:31] And it's when ang chooses to go with taka and he's like hey
[00:27:31 - 00:27:35] Even though we've like almost crashed our ship and this adventure really sucks
[00:27:35 - 00:27:40] We're gonna keep going and Katara's like no, I don't want to do that and ang's like we're going anyway
[00:27:41 - 00:27:45] That would have been a great moment to start getting into this inner character tension between ang and like
[00:27:46 - 00:27:49] Literally the mother of his future children. Well, I think they're married at this point
[00:27:49 - 00:27:53] Yes, but like this is the person that ang is with his whole life and has kids with
[00:27:53 - 00:27:57] and said we can't just gloss over that and they keep going and
[00:27:58 - 00:28:02] Katara just hugs him later and and when she follows taka
[00:28:03 - 00:28:05] She's like, I know what type of airbender ang is
[00:28:06 - 00:28:08] And then like kind of forgiving him in that moment
[00:28:09 - 00:28:13] Which I didn't hate because like she cares a lot about ang and she start
[00:28:13 - 00:28:16] She starts talking to talk about hope of course
[00:28:17 - 00:28:19] Which they poke fun at but
[00:28:21 - 00:28:21] No, no, no, you're great
[00:28:21 - 00:28:23] I think like
[00:28:23 - 00:28:29] And then with some of the main characters of avatar get sidelined like I'm glad that toff gets her moments zuko gets
[00:28:29 - 00:28:33] His moments, although I would have loved more zuka didn't really get that many moments
[00:28:33 - 00:28:36] I know and then although when he said face your death with honor. I was like, yep, let's go
[00:28:36 - 00:28:42] There's there's the honor. Um, that was sick. And like, yeah, like socket gets moments like it's great
[00:28:42 - 00:28:46] But I really wish they would have been more involved in the story itself and like
[00:28:46 - 00:28:51] I wish they would have gotten into arguments as the gang like I wish they there was tension between them and there just wasn't
[00:28:52 - 00:28:54] Um, they kind of just felt like they were along for the ride
[00:28:54 - 00:29:00] So I think that's where my biggest stripes are and they they maybe stem a little bit from like the show is
[00:29:01 - 00:29:03] Like
[00:29:03 - 00:29:07] Yes, it's important. But for this movie, it's not actually that important. It's not
[00:29:08 - 00:29:10] I agree and maybe this
[00:29:10 - 00:29:14] Because to me being completely green in this world
[00:29:15 - 00:29:17] this feels very much like
[00:29:18 - 00:29:20] Kind of a reset point of like
[00:29:21 - 00:29:25] If hypothetically this went to theaters and did well and whatever and maybe we'll still do this but
[00:29:25 - 00:29:30] We can have a as many serialized adventures in an hour and a half of movie
[00:29:31 - 00:29:33] As we wanted with this
[00:29:34 - 00:29:36] Late group of people from what's the city called?
[00:29:37 - 00:29:42] The republic city yeah from the republic city or whatever and that feels very like
[00:29:44 - 00:29:45] I mean
[00:29:45 - 00:29:49] Not that this has to be PG-13 or whatever, but like this is a PG movie
[00:29:49 - 00:29:51] still kind of targeted to
[00:29:53 - 00:29:58] The younger generation. Yes, just based on kind of feel and vibe. Yes, so this feels to me like
[00:30:00 - 00:30:02] a
[00:30:02 - 00:30:04] I don't want to say worse, but a less
[00:30:05 - 00:30:08] Deep version of what the show was
[00:30:08 - 00:30:13] That the parents are going to get the kids into yes, so that when the next movie comes out
[00:30:14 - 00:30:17] Hopefully the kids will be like. Oh, I like this. Yeah, but like
[00:30:17 - 00:30:21] It based on what y'all are saying it feels less deep than it was
[00:30:21 - 00:30:26] Yeah, a hundred percent which and again like that's where I think it ties into like who is this movie for like
[00:30:27 - 00:30:30] Probably wanted this in retrospect to be a PG-13 movie
[00:30:30 - 00:30:34] That's like totally we picked back up where we left off fully with the characters
[00:30:34 - 00:30:37] This is not like oh like these are the characters now
[00:30:37 - 00:30:39] Here's a new thing like no look we picked back up with
[00:30:39 - 00:30:42] Zuko really trying to like pull the fire nation together
[00:30:43 - 00:30:49] Even a decade later like I mean we still do that in some areas with aang trying to restore the airbenders
[00:30:49 - 00:30:55] But also we know the aang doesn't like in core aang has not restored the airbenders through the staff
[00:30:55 - 00:30:57] Like we know this doesn't work
[00:30:58 - 00:31:01] So I don't know like I I think that's where my issues lie a little bit of like
[00:31:02 - 00:31:05] I might have preferred a little bit more mature serious movie
[00:31:06 - 00:31:09] Also, I low key would have loved this movie 20 minutes longer. Yeah
[00:31:10 - 00:31:13] It was like a brisk movie and like that's okay. It doesn't over say it's welcome
[00:31:13 - 00:31:17] But I'm like man like I would have loved 20 more minutes with the characters
[00:31:18 - 00:31:20] actually kind of maybe fighting with each other or like
[00:31:21 - 00:31:26] Talking to each other more. Yeah, so that's maybe my gripes. I'm sorry. I went long there. No, you're good
[00:31:27 - 00:31:29] My gripes I agree with you
[00:31:29 - 00:31:33] I want to see my favorite characters interact more and
[00:31:35 - 00:31:37] The comics I think are canon
[00:31:38 - 00:31:39] Right
[00:31:39 - 00:31:41] Yes, I think they think they are
[00:31:42 - 00:31:47] But one thing in the can if it if they are canon at the end of the comics
[00:31:48 - 00:31:50] the promise
[00:31:50 - 00:31:51] this is
[00:31:52 - 00:31:54] I do have the I don't own all of them
[00:31:54 - 00:31:59] I do want to I own the promise in the search and I've kind of read into other ones online
[00:32:00 - 00:32:03] But the promise is like zuko
[00:32:04 - 00:32:07] Makes ang promise like hey if I become like my dad, I want you to kill me like in me
[00:32:08 - 00:32:13] That's super interesting. Which is awesome. That is that was so interesting that I wish that
[00:32:14 - 00:32:17] The movie was the comics and we just pick up right where we left. Well
[00:32:18 - 00:32:22] Maybe not because like people will be like oh the characters don't sound like they used to like yes
[00:32:22 - 00:32:26] Maybe you could get jack de senna and don't say boss go in the girl place toff
[00:32:27 - 00:32:29] back um
[00:32:29 - 00:32:33] And maybe you could get and like you could get a new ang and like make him sound a little older because he's
[00:32:34 - 00:32:36] grown up a bit because some time passes
[00:32:37 - 00:32:39] um, but
[00:32:40 - 00:32:41] At the end of that
[00:32:41 - 00:32:45] Ang starts the air acolytes like at the end of this movie
[00:32:45 - 00:32:50] It was I'm like if this is canon like we already have this which like they don't necessarily
[00:32:51 - 00:32:53] say at the end of like
[00:32:54 - 00:32:57] Well, I guess I kind of do that ang starts the air acolytes to rebuild the culture
[00:32:57 - 00:33:03] But he does that in the comics so that I guess that is one thing that is a gripe for me as like a big avatar nerd
[00:33:04 - 00:33:06] um
[00:33:06 - 00:33:08] One thing which
[00:33:08 - 00:33:14] This is also an avatar nerd thing when katara, which I want to hear juice thoughts on this and I have a reason
[00:33:14 - 00:33:16] why I think they did this when
[00:33:17 - 00:33:21] Zuko toff and katara are surrounded by the denied and they have the airbending
[00:33:21 - 00:33:27] Uh katara, I know exactly what you're talking about and katara goes. Oh no. I'm out of water
[00:33:28 - 00:33:32] Drew, what did you think anything in that moment? Yeah, I thought it was stupid. Really? Yeah, you actually did
[00:33:32 - 00:33:35] Yeah, why did you think that because there's water and human beings?
[00:33:36 - 00:33:40] Oh, whoa, that's ball knowledge. True. You have to watch avatar. Yes, please
[00:33:41 - 00:33:47] You're going to love avatar. Okay. I that was my first thought. I'm like humans are like 70 water or something
[00:33:47 - 00:33:52] You're out of water and also there's water in the earth everywhere. I love you. I love you. I mean, I know what you know what's crazy
[00:33:53 - 00:33:57] You're so right. Okay. You're so right. You know my avatar is good. It's because you're so right
[00:33:57 - 00:34:02] I want you to watch season three about our please season three of avatars the best season and
[00:34:03 - 00:34:05] There could be an argument for season two, but I say season three
[00:34:06 - 00:34:11] That's so good. There's a episode of you actually have to watch avatar. I'm like losing my mind
[00:34:11 - 00:34:14] Um, drew. I'm kind of going to spoil quote unquote some things
[00:34:15 - 00:34:17] There is an episode in season three
[00:34:17 - 00:34:21] Where the gang is in the fire nation and they meet this old southern water tribe lady
[00:34:22 - 00:34:24] Where she actually has a southern accent. No
[00:34:25 - 00:34:28] I feel like that's wild. That would be crazy. That's crazy. That's funny
[00:34:29 - 00:34:34] No, but they meet this old lady named hama and she's from the southern water tribe
[00:34:34 - 00:34:39] Which guitar is from and the whole thing with the guitar is that she is the only water bender in the southern water tribe
[00:34:39 - 00:34:42] And so she's like, oh my gosh, I met another water tribe person
[00:34:42 - 00:34:45] Kind of like with ang and tauga, which I didn't make that connection until now
[00:34:46 - 00:34:51] And so guitar really looks up to hama, but there's this dark thing about hama. Oh my gosh
[00:34:51 - 00:34:53] Just kind of just the same episode. Um
[00:34:54 - 00:34:55] hama is
[00:34:55 - 00:34:56] has been
[00:34:56 - 00:35:00] Taking people like taking out her revenge on the fire nation because she was in prison for forever
[00:35:00 - 00:35:05] And she learned how to bloodbend and that can only do this was a yes, and she could only do it
[00:35:06 - 00:35:09] On um a full moon when the
[00:35:09 - 00:35:12] Water penders powers must strong, but katara
[00:35:13 - 00:35:17] Is so goaded that she can do it at any time that and also show. Yes
[00:35:18 - 00:35:20] Well, okay, she doesn't do it often at this point
[00:35:20 - 00:35:26] In her bending journey when she's 25 in the movie, but she does do it outside of a full moon in the show
[00:35:26 - 00:35:30] No, it's staring a full moon and no not on the southern raiders episode. Yeah, it is
[00:35:31 - 00:35:36] Oh, I guess I didn't know that because that night and I'm pretty sure it's only or it's like close to a full moon
[00:35:36 - 00:35:39] But I'm missing a set detail. Um, no, you're good. Um
[00:35:39 - 00:35:45] But yeah, she is a very powerful waterbender and hama taught her that like you can take water of anything
[00:35:45 - 00:35:50] And there's a scene where hama like weighs her hand and her fingers start to freeze out of like the humidity in the air
[00:35:50 - 00:35:52] And that she freezes that water. Katara bends her own sweat
[00:35:53 - 00:35:58] Like there are multiple instances of her pulling water out of things when she quote unquote runs out of water
[00:35:58 - 00:36:00] Yes, but I think why
[00:36:01 - 00:36:03] Because if someone's not
[00:36:03 - 00:36:06] Thinking like drew him like oh, there's water in humans
[00:36:06 - 00:36:10] Then like a kid is going to be like, oh, she's out of water. She can't bend anymore
[00:36:10 - 00:36:14] Yeah, if like I think that's why I don't have left field. Katara just started pulling water from the air
[00:36:14 - 00:36:19] She'd be like why can't you do that? I would be like what like that's kind of random. Yeah, but
[00:36:19 - 00:36:24] I don't know. I still I see what you're saying there, but I would agree. I wish that
[00:36:25 - 00:36:29] If when soca comes in that's a great moment. By the way, it's super funny. Um
[00:36:30 - 00:36:33] But he like comes in and saves them and drops the water and then they all three strike
[00:36:34 - 00:36:36] I think it would have been fine
[00:36:36 - 00:36:42] If like Katara like did something just like there was water around her and like was still fighting but they like
[00:36:43 - 00:36:45] The denied were like fighting them really hard bread
[00:36:45 - 00:36:49] They were like kind of getting their butts whooped and then so I got to come and save them
[00:36:49 - 00:36:53] I wish they just kind of did something like that instead of creating this fiasco of like, oh, no
[00:36:53 - 00:36:56] I'm out of water like the fact that was one of Katara's lines is a bit sad
[00:36:57 - 00:37:05] Um, but that's like a small gripe. It isn't even very small. Honestly like, um, this this is my biggest gripe with this movie, which
[00:37:06 - 00:37:12] Some people can look at it different because a lot of people like Korra. I like Korra a lot. Korra is very good when I watched it
[00:37:13 - 00:37:17] Uh, I when I was 12, I like watched it right after I watched avatar. I was like, this is bad
[00:37:17 - 00:37:22] This is nothing like avatar last airbender. It's not supposed to be there are some things about core that I don't like
[00:37:22 - 00:37:26] I think season two is very like not very bad, but it's not good
[00:37:26 - 00:37:32] But seasons one and especially three I would say that season three of course just as good as season two of avatar
[00:37:33 - 00:37:37] Um, which some people might flame me in the comments for that but I would disagree
[00:37:37 - 00:37:40] Um, and there's a lot of things that happen in season three
[00:37:42 - 00:37:46] Of Korra that are very very similar to what happens in this movie
[00:37:47 - 00:37:53] And so all this core is very focused on the spirit world, which I can just kind of say that's not a big spoiler
[00:37:54 - 00:38:00] But this movie was very focused on the spirit world when only the first season of avatar is focused on the spirit world because you have
[00:38:00 - 00:38:02] the stuff with hay by
[00:38:02 - 00:38:05] um in the winter solstice and then you have kodaface dealer and the
[00:38:06 - 00:38:11] The moon spirits there's other moments where he does communicate with the other avatars and stuff
[00:38:11 - 00:38:16] But that's that's kind of it and like in the finale you get some stuff with like past avatars
[00:38:16 - 00:38:21] But that's basically it and core just dives deep into that like big time
[00:38:21 - 00:38:23] And so I think they were trying to kind of bridge the gap more of like
[00:38:24 - 00:38:28] Going more into going more into the spirit world the stuff with like the huge cat
[00:38:28 - 00:38:32] I thought it was funny and that the spirit world is very weird like taiko wateedie
[00:38:32 - 00:38:34] Yeah, I kind of thought that was the worst part of the movie
[00:38:35 - 00:38:40] It is it definitely is but like that's kind of how the spirit world is especially in kora like it is weird
[00:38:40 - 00:38:43] It is very weird. Okay. That did kind of
[00:38:43 - 00:38:45] Stop the pacing for me. I agree
[00:38:45 - 00:38:50] Building up to the third moment and then like everyone's either old or a kid and then this
[00:38:51 - 00:38:53] Which I thought was
[00:38:54 - 00:38:59] It was gimmick and then instantly the moment they get up there. It's all fixed. I'm like, why didn't we just pop up up there?
[00:38:59 - 00:39:04] And yeah, it definitely I think I definitely felt unnecessary some kid like humor
[00:39:04 - 00:39:09] Kind of deal and I think it's funny that zuko and katara were old and that's that's how they look like in kora
[00:39:09 - 00:39:11] So I thought that was funny
[00:39:11 - 00:39:14] In tough as a baby. I thought that was funny, but
[00:39:15 - 00:39:19] So your your gripe is that it's like it feels more like kora than it does like avatar last airbender
[00:39:20 - 00:39:23] Okay, I see it really does. Yeah, because the gang and kora
[00:39:25 - 00:39:30] Feels like that we're like, yes, there are good character moments, but it mostly just focuses on like
[00:39:30 - 00:39:32] kora and
[00:39:32 - 00:39:36] Mako for like seasons one and two and then you kind of just get kora
[00:39:36 - 00:39:40] In tensen and season three and then like season four everyone's apart
[00:39:41 - 00:39:47] And so like it honestly feels more like kora, which I think is my biggest gripe because kora is just not as good
[00:39:47 - 00:39:49] As avatar last airbender even though kora is good
[00:39:50 - 00:39:54] Um, and like there are a lot of things that happen in kora that literally happen in this movie
[00:39:55 - 00:39:59] Yeah, so I think that's my biggest gripe. Yeah, let's know your gripes in the comment section
[00:39:59 - 00:40:03] If you have gripes or issues or likes about this movie because
[00:40:03 - 00:40:07] We're griping and we have some issues, but this movie's still a good positive experience
[00:40:07 - 00:40:12] Oh, I give it four stars on the letterbox. I give it three and a half and I think the story is like decent
[00:40:12 - 00:40:16] The animation is incredible. I like the story. So, um really quick
[00:40:16 - 00:40:20] This is more a question for you luke. We have seven havens coming out. Yes, which is the new avatar show
[00:40:22 - 00:40:23] I didn't even know this
[00:40:23 - 00:40:26] Yes, now in october. Look at that. Um, I'm very excited luke
[00:40:26 - 00:40:29] Where do you see the avatar franchise going from here if you had to like kind of dream it up?
[00:40:29 - 00:40:34] Is it like we get more movies each one focused on a different one of the game?
[00:40:34 - 00:40:34] Like wait
[00:40:34 - 00:40:38] So like saying like what I would do with the universe if it was like, what are your hopes for?
[00:40:39 - 00:40:43] What do you think it could go potential? I think they're going to do seven havens and I think
[00:40:44 - 00:40:46] Seven havens is going to totally
[00:40:47 - 00:40:52] Reorient what avatar is because there's something that happens at the end like literally at the end of kora
[00:40:53 - 00:40:57] And that leads into seven havens and we kind of me and grant watched the trailer together
[00:40:57 - 00:41:00] Which I kind of wish he didn't but like in the trailer
[00:41:00 - 00:41:02] It shows kora kind of like
[00:41:03 - 00:41:07] The world is this way like it looks very different from republic city republic city is like
[00:41:07 - 00:41:16] A 1940s 1930s city. Yeah, it's a big switch up from what you get in avatar. That's why that's probably people's biggest gripe about kora
[00:41:16 - 00:41:18] Which I'm like, it's fine. I kind of like it
[00:41:21 - 00:41:22] But
[00:41:22 - 00:41:24] So it's we're just kind of back to like bare bones like
[00:41:25 - 00:41:27] I mean we're in the desert
[00:41:28 - 00:41:34] Because I forget her name. I forget her name. It's okay. Um, but they're the the twins are sandbenders
[00:41:35 - 00:41:39] And I think it's cool. How is that different from earth bending? It's just like a variation and there's also
[00:41:40 - 00:41:42] lava bending and earth bending
[00:41:43 - 00:41:48] And then there's lightning bending there's a little bit. That's cool. And there's there's metal bending. Yeah, you can fly if you're an airbender
[00:41:48 - 00:41:51] There's like there's combustion bending. There's different variations
[00:41:52 - 00:41:57] In like advanced techniques in each bit. That's kind of cool. It is sick. It's the world been the world
[00:41:57 - 00:42:00] Build that you've done that twice now is great. Um
[00:42:00 - 00:42:02] I
[00:42:03 - 00:42:10] They're gonna release seven havens and they're releasing both seasons on october 9th, which I think yeah, there's two seasons. Yeah
[00:42:10 - 00:42:15] What there's like, I didn't even know that's crazy. I found that out today actually uh fact check me if i'm wrong
[00:42:15 - 00:42:19] But i'm pretty sure that's true. That's kind of crazy if the comments will fact check you don't
[00:42:19 - 00:42:24] Yes, they will worry. Oh, um avatar stands. I think I hope so
[00:42:25 - 00:42:29] But I do would you want them to do more movies like this? Oh, absolutely
[00:42:29 - 00:42:32] I I I have waited seven years for this movie
[00:42:33 - 00:42:35] I have wanted a good avatar
[00:42:36 - 00:42:40] movie about my favorite characters and they're older and
[00:42:41 - 00:42:43] To see the adventures from the time of like
[00:42:44 - 00:42:48] After the hundred year war before quora like that's all I've wanted as an avatar fan
[00:42:48 - 00:42:54] And we finally got it and I was pretty I was pleased like I truly was pleased. This movie is good. You should go watch it
[00:42:54 - 00:42:56] um
[00:42:56 - 00:42:58] But I think I would love more like
[00:42:58 - 00:43:00] Maybe a movie just about
[00:43:01 - 00:43:07] Anga kittara or maybe about like zoop. Uh, not zoop in kittara. It's soca in kittara and like their brotherhood and like
[00:43:07 - 00:43:11] Sibling hood not brotherhood. Um, and maybe with their dad hikota, which is a comic
[00:43:12 - 00:43:17] Um, and maybe stuff with toffin or metal bending academy or just like more stuff with the gang
[00:43:18 - 00:43:22] And like kind of making it feel like avatar. Micah fischer. I'm gonna shout you out. Um
[00:43:23 - 00:43:25] You said
[00:43:28 - 00:43:32] You said in your letterbox that like I wish this was a miniseries and I agree
[00:43:33 - 00:43:37] I think that's crazy and to dig in more to characters, but I think for an hour and 40 minute movie
[00:43:38 - 00:43:40] and for new
[00:43:40 - 00:43:42] Avatar fans
[00:43:42 - 00:43:44] Focusing just on ang
[00:43:44 - 00:43:46] This movie did very well
[00:43:47 - 00:43:49] And I love
[00:43:49 - 00:43:51] I like I like that they
[00:43:51 - 00:43:52] Play with
[00:43:52 - 00:43:55] Ang's trauma in this of like I thought that was cool
[00:43:56 - 00:44:02] Yes, when he that's a they only kind of tackle that one episode, which is called the storm in season one, which is a very good episode
[00:44:03 - 00:44:09] Um, but that's kind of all they talk about. Yes, it's mentioned that like I abandoned my people and I wish I was there
[00:44:09 - 00:44:14] But like this movie really plays with that and I really like that because that's a I mean, that's why
[00:44:15 - 00:44:20] All avatar happens is that he leaves and then gets frozen in the block of icing guitar and soccer
[00:44:20 - 00:44:26] There are moments where it's like used to guilt trip him and he still is kind of dealing with that even today
[00:44:26 - 00:44:29] So, yeah, I thought that was a good moment for sure
[00:44:29 - 00:44:35] Um, well, I think like we've landed in a good place on this movie. Yeah drew. We'll watch avatar at some point
[00:44:35 - 00:44:37] I will don't worry. Yes, but before we go
[00:44:38 - 00:44:44] There's an L in the room. There's an L. We're at a party. Oh, are we gonna talk about the fact that I got a release online?
[00:44:44 - 00:44:46] Oh, yeah
[00:44:46 - 00:44:48] Okay, I I guess my question
[00:44:48 - 00:44:53] There's not much to say. No, yeah before we into the park. It's really sad. Like that's really sad
[00:44:53 - 00:44:57] I think there's kind of two sides of the coin of like
[00:44:58 - 00:45:00] It sucks
[00:45:01 - 00:45:06] Like the who worked on this movie it got leaked and like it's so sad that their artwork and all the effort they put into it
[00:45:06 - 00:45:08] Which if you watch this movie, you're you look and you're like, yeah
[00:45:08 - 00:45:13] They put a lot of effort into this movie that that got leaked before that really sucks. It's really sad
[00:45:13 - 00:45:18] I do think people tend to turn it into like, well, I'm gonna watch it because you know screw paramount and like
[00:45:19 - 00:45:22] I think that we got to focus on the artists and this specific conversation here
[00:45:23 - 00:45:25] So and the actors I'm not gonna like
[00:45:25 - 00:45:29] Say you should unsubscribe to the channel if you watched the movie when it was leaked
[00:45:29 - 00:45:34] Like we're not gonna say that but if a similar situation happens again, which at some point
[00:45:35 - 00:45:40] I'm sure it will totally maybe refrain. Um, just out of respect for those artists. Yeah, it's kind of
[00:45:41 - 00:45:44] I don't know. Is there anything you would add drew? No, I agree. I mean, it's just like
[00:45:45 - 00:45:47] It's obviously a terrible situation
[00:45:47 - 00:45:52] But then yeah, it did suck that paramount pull this from theaters. So that I'll I will voice that as well
[00:45:52 - 00:45:54] It is really really sad and I hope
[00:45:54 - 00:45:58] I think they're supposed to do more movies, which I think this movie is gonna do well
[00:45:59 - 00:46:02] Which is hard because like the Odyssey just came out, which was great by the way
[00:46:03 - 00:46:08] It was great. I loved it. Um, and then brand new day comes out literally this thursday night
[00:46:08 - 00:46:13] It is a little sandwich. So it's sandwiched between probably the two most anticipated films of the year besides doomsday
[00:46:14 - 00:46:15] um
[00:46:15 - 00:46:16] And so
[00:46:16 - 00:46:19] That's unfortunate. I kind of wish it was still october 9th
[00:46:20 - 00:46:24] but since the movie got leaked it makes sense why they would bump it up and
[00:46:25 - 00:46:29] Uh seven havens is now coming out on that date. Yeah, so
[00:46:29 - 00:46:35] Um, it makes sense. It is I feel really bad for hopefully avatar fans that got leaked
[00:46:35 - 00:46:39] Hopefully a little bit of mismanagement around the avatar franchise will be learned from
[00:46:40 - 00:46:46] And in the future avatar fans will get a little bit more good content, which I think this is a step in the right direction
[00:46:47 - 00:46:54] The netflix adaptation is a miss. So, um, hopefully we can get some some more good animated content
[00:46:54 - 00:46:58] And I am excited for seven havens. I will I plan to watch it. It looks it
[00:46:58 - 00:47:01] I'm like I watched it. I did not know if it was going to be good or not
[00:47:02 - 00:47:06] I watched the trailer. I'm like, I'm actually excited for this. I think this has potential to be good. Yes, I think
[00:47:07 - 00:47:12] Well, I can't I don't want to spoil it core for grant. So we'll see. Yeah, jury's out, but
[00:47:12 - 00:47:17] Luke you were at a party. Yes. It's a chill birthday party. You do not know a lot of people
[00:47:17 - 00:47:18] I don't know a lot of people
[00:47:18 - 00:47:23] Um, you walk in I walk in you see like some mutual friends. There's some food everybody's talking
[00:47:24 - 00:47:27] But in the other room. Yes avatar a the last airbender
[00:47:27 - 00:47:29] Is on the screen. What are you doing?
[00:47:30 - 00:47:35] I'm probably going to grab a plate of food and sit my butt down and watch my favorite characters and great animation
[00:47:37 - 00:47:39] I think you're in the same situation guy
[00:47:39 - 00:47:44] What are you doing? Um, probably going to talk to people. Well, all right
[00:47:45 - 00:47:48] Not if I don't think you would if you watch the show
[00:47:48 - 00:47:51] I think if you sat down and somebody tried to talk to you about avatar, you'd feel like way out of
[00:47:51 - 00:47:54] I would feel way out of my death. I'd be like, I look I've seen this and that's it
[00:47:55 - 00:47:57] In the end the show I'm like moving around
[00:47:57 - 00:47:59] It's a bad situation. I know it's like
[00:48:00 - 00:48:02] It's negative aura
[00:48:03 - 00:48:06] I mean, I might watch it. I I enjoy this movie. I think I would find myself like
[00:48:07 - 00:48:10] Continuously looking back at the screen be like man. This animation is really really bad. Yeah
[00:48:11 - 00:48:13] I think that's what I think I would like to if
[00:48:14 - 00:48:18] If this movie is on then I'm assuming that the person having the birthday party is a
[00:48:18 - 00:48:23] Pretty big avatar fan or like a fan of avatar. So you'd find that person. So I'd probably find
[00:48:24 - 00:48:27] You you want to talk to you like aing
[00:48:28 - 00:48:30] Um, I think I would talk to people of like
[00:48:31 - 00:48:34] Who have watched this I would be like have you watched the show and they're like, yeah
[00:48:34 - 00:48:38] I'm like, well, what do you think of the movie? And if they're like, I haven't seen it. I'm watching it right now
[00:48:38 - 00:48:43] I'll be like, okay. Let's watch it then. Yeah, but um, I think I would like to talk to people about it
[00:48:43 - 00:48:45] And I'm kind of talked to a lot of my friends and my
[00:48:46 - 00:48:48] Mentor who grew up on the show
[00:48:48 - 00:48:52] Um about it. Yeah, we'll see how cultural conversation develops around this movie
[00:48:52 - 00:48:56] But hopefully stays positive for literally just the sake of avatar fans. So
[00:48:56 - 00:48:58] Surely, please
[00:48:58 - 00:49:02] Luke and drew together alternating. What do we got coming up next?
[00:49:03 - 00:49:05] Look you go first. Um
[00:49:05 - 00:49:07] We've got
[00:49:07 - 00:49:09] Spider-man homecoming
[00:49:09 - 00:49:13] Up next on the spider-man movie marathon. I don't know. It might be tazm 2
[00:49:13 - 00:49:20] Well tazm 2 soon. Sorry grant just watched that last night, uh, or finish it and he was like, I'm gonna start homecoming
[00:49:20 - 00:49:24] Um, but yes tazm 2 is next and then homecoming
[00:49:25 - 00:49:27] And then
[00:49:28 - 00:49:34] Then house the dragon sometime some sometime in the void of all of our swine line releases and then
[00:49:36 - 00:49:38] And then
[00:49:38 - 00:49:40] You've got what's an august
[00:49:40 - 00:49:42] The resident evil
[00:49:43 - 00:49:47] Is that coming out on august? Uh, I think so other mommy or no
[00:49:48 - 00:49:50] Um
[00:49:51 - 00:49:53] Starts with an L
[00:49:53 - 00:49:55] ends with a turn
[00:49:55 - 00:50:01] I don't think turns lanterns lanterns going on. I don't know what lanterns is true. We're talking about it. We have dunes day
[00:50:01 - 00:50:03] We have dunes day is in december
[00:50:04 - 00:50:09] Yes, we got a lot of stuff. We're gonna review everything from the social reckoning and fjord to
[00:50:09 - 00:50:16] Doomsday and dune 3 and everything. Oh, yeah, dune 3. So I sold you to um, but yeah
[00:50:16 - 00:50:19] Hit that subscribe button if you're new to the channel and you really like avatar
[00:50:19 - 00:50:23] Yes, we might even get around to seven havens. Who knows maybe maybe I'll finally watch out and I'll come down
[00:50:24 - 00:50:26] Uh, juror has a lot to catch up on before
[00:50:26 - 00:50:30] By the way, why do we always end up in this situation? I don't know but here we are
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